If you do it wrong, when you come over the top and are inverted, if you let the nose fall towards the ground in a plane like that you can loose three or four thousand feet really fast and can easily exceed redline. CG was okay. The airplane departed from Southland Field Airport (UXL), Sulphur, Louisiana, about 1326 and terminated about 1436. The NTSB also declared that the plane's crash was the result of "extensive internal failure of the inboard left engine" during . Report: Plane nosedived, killed part-owner and his teacher Based solely on the description of the situation, sounds to me like they decided to try to do a slow roll and screwed it up. SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) The Canadian pilot of a small plane that crashed Sunday in Spokane has died. It may have required tools to get it out of the ground. The 737-800 is a twin-engine, single-aisle plane commonly used for short and medium-haul flights. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. They both observed the bottom of the airplane and did not notice any rotational movement. I think its a possibility that needs to be explored by people who know a whole lot more about it than I do. This plane in a local hangar belonged to Palermo. Navy pilot from Lake Arrowhead presumed dead in jet crash I never saw more lawsuits against management at this organization that were justified, but those affected did not care because the money they caused the taxpayers to forfeit did not come out of their pockets. The National Transportation Safety Board tweeted Wednesday that it was investigating the crash but would not travel to the site. NTSB should already know if that was evident.Still a head scratcher. A celebration of Dons life will be held on Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:00 PM at First United Methodist Church located at 812 Kirkman Street, Lake Charles, LA 70601. But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. Date & Time: February 2, 2021, 17:44 Local, Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General aviation - Instructional. Visitation will resume on Saturday February 6, 2021 at Trinity Baptist Church from 10:00 a.m. until 11:30 AM, with a Mass of Christian Burial to be observed at 12 noon on Saturday, February 6, 2021, at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, 935 Bilbo Street, Lake Charles, Johnson Funeral Home, Lake Charles has been entrusted with arrangements. Don and his wife, Nancy chaired the Big Lake Invitational Fishing Tournament for many years. Palermo was flying a Cessna 182 like one he owned, still parked at a local hangar. Tonight & Tomorrow: Beneath clear skies, thermometers Friday AM Forecast: Wind Advisory this morning, clear and sunny this afternoon. The last of ADS-B data from Flight Aware only shows the start of the incident. He was happiest in the clouds. There was a problem saving your notification. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. AD is for problems that showed up on the tail draggers.Models 182 through 182D airplanes have the same tailcone design as Model 185-series tail draggers. The last 12 seconds of recorded data show the plane made a right turn and descended 3,200 feet leading up to the accident. Little did they know but nine (9) years later, in 2002, Nancy, Don and their two children, Will and Mary Kathryn would become devoted members of First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles. LSU pitcher Paul Skenes LSU women's basketball beats Georgia 83-66 in SEC Tournament matchup. Daniel Dal Zennaro/EPA-EFE/Shutt. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, LA. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Saturday AM Forecast: Today's weather will be near perfect. Richard Don Clements, 55, a well-respected financial planner and talented musician, died on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 in an aviation accident. Anyone who cared about the families and somehow detected the blade, would not rest until investigators obtained the blade. More controversy for clicks and useful in the relentless vendetta against NTSB. On Wednesday, Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancusos voice broke as he told reporters that one victim, Rock Palermo, was the departments pilot, attorney and friend. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. Baseball star Roberto Clemente dies in plane crash - HISTORY Got me back to scratching my head. The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. BATON ROUGE, La. I even asked at one point, Rock, would you like to take controls of the airplane? He said, No, youre doing a good job. A Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas are to investigate the crash, KPLC-TV reported. Makes no sense to claim "non-existent investigation" when the preliminary report describes verification of control continuity by examination for tensile overload separations and a determination of as-found fuel selector position. He was an FAA licensed Airline Transport Pilot with airplane, jet and helicopter ratings. Palermo and Clements were killed when their Cessna. he always worked hard. He was preceded in death by his father, Richard Don Clements, Sr. but is survived by his mother, Carolyn Joy Templeton Clements and his brother, Kirk Alan Clements, both of whom reside in Denton, Texas. Two witnesses were in close proximity to the accident site, but different locations, stated that they observed the airplane in a rapid descent with the nose pointed at the ground. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. His most cherished hobby, passed on by his father, was flying. Flight Track. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. There was a problem saving your notification. Good point, thanks. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. THE FORECAST Copyright 2022 KPLC. If Rock couldnt recover from this, I dont think anyone else could, said Kerbow. Hackberry plane crash? | Page 4 | O-T Lounge - TigerDroppings One of his proudest moments was in 2016 when he presented his daughter, Mary Kathryn as the Princess Music of Lincoln Center. Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. MOON TOWNSHIP, Pa. Greater Pittsburgh Airport was still considered new when the regularly scheduled TWA Flight 400 crashed on Easter Sunday in 1956. Later 182's do not.https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/02/2020-24046/airworthiness-directives-textron-aviation-inc-airplanes. Police release powerful body-cam video following plane crash; pilot dies They say Palermo sometimes helped out at their school, Plane Simple Flight School. His love for the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Department enabled him to serve his community as Captain of the Aviation Unit.Rock graduated from LSU Law School in 1992 and from LSU with a bachelors degree in 1987. It's easy to understand accidents that have a clear path of poor decisions. It seems like something major must have gone wrong here. I just watched Dan Gryder's part III video. Plane in fatal crash struck trees, terrain shortly after takeoff - nj Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. Lawsuit: attendant who refueled plane that crashed should have been Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. I suggested this in comments a couple of other places, and every time I've gotten ripped on about how wrong I was, and I probably am wrong, but I had a gut feeling about this when I first heard of it, two guys in a modern regular nothing special airplane doing minor training, returning to the airport, aircraft was 4,000 AGL then inexplicably nosedives into the ground, severe clear visibility calm winds, no obvious weather or mechanical reason for the crash. On Feb. 2, 2021, an aircraft went down, killing both men on board, Rock Palermo and Don Clements. Palermo was an attorney for the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office, they said. Perhaps, as a poster mentioned earlier, the trim could be stuck ("runaway") at a nose down attitude for the dive portion of this accident. The 182Q N4765N accident aircraft does not have the tailcone design that the AD applies to. Don is survived by his wife, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, and their two children, Mary Kathryn Clements and William Don Clements. I propose that they had been doing training for an hour or so in a practice area, were returning to the airport traveling in a straight line for many miles, when they got within eyesight of the airport and were thinking the fun was almost over, for whatever reason, they attempted a slow roll to the left, they had forward CG (close to, at, or beyond limits is not known, but probably somewhere forward), so when they went over the top and were inverted, the nose started to fall to the ground. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. He was a certified flight instructor and passed on his joy of flying to many. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. Palermo was an attorney for the Calcasieu Parish Sheriff's Office, they said. A debris field that consisted of the wings and smaller airplane components extended about 40 yards from the crater. He enjoyed every minute spent with them, from discussing politics and world travel with Rachel to attending Ryans baseball games to listening to Sarah play guitar and speak the Spanish language. Sheriff Ron Johnson told KPLC that the plane crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. It is a detailed order of 40+ pages. At impact, the remaining two blades cause the crankshaft to shear aft of the propeller flange. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. I'm left wondering what lessons can I take away from this one to keep it from happening to me when I fly? Youll never convince me other than it was a catastrophic failure of the aircraft because Rock knew exactly what to do, said Thompson. "Two witnesses observed the airplane in a rapid descent with the nose pointed at the ground. It won't be there when someone does go back to fetch it. Wind Advisory in effect for the entire WBRZ BATON ROUGE - The Tigers win the Podium Challenge in the River Center with a score of 197.700. Winds will ease into the evening. Romanian billionaire Dan Petrescu and his family were killed in . 6. Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:57 am to Lithium. Two bodies were recovered from the wreckage. Visitation services will be held on Friday, February 5, 2021, between 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. with a Scripture Service to be held at 6:30 p.m. at Trinity Baptist Church, 1800 Country Club Rd., Lake Charles. Sept. 14, 2014 10:37 PM PT. The NTSB report outlines the final moments the craft was in flight. Throwing a blade as they throttled back up would do it. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. There are no survivors. The empennage was crushed and distorted. The third blade was recovered at the crash site, just not by the "NTSB" Who ever recovered the airplane did not do a thorough enough job. Theyre very easy to fly and one of the reasons a lot of people choose to fly them is because theyre so safe, said Thompson, describing such arcraft. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. "It is a great loss for the department and the entire community," officials said at a press conference, "It didn't matter the time of day or night who was in trouble, if it was in another parish and they needed our plane he would jump in and take over.". Probable causes are generally given in final reports, which can take a year or more. Small plane crash kills Calcasieu Parish Sheriff's Office pilot - WBRZ Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. His 25 pound mass half scale model Spacewalker is just six percent of half the mass of the 800 lb full scale Spacewalker. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. This is the type of crash that likely catches LOTS of self-aware pilots' attentionInre your (Winchman's) observation/question noted in the 1st paragraph, writing as a (never-used-for-income) aerospace-engineering-degreed, ~2600-hr glider-only pilot who also 'messed around w. RC gliders', one 'obvious difference' between RC power planes and full-sized ones is what I'll call 'prop-disc-area/mass ratio' differences, with the RC 'ratio' being considerably higher than that for man-carrying (182) equivalents. 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The report said two of the propeller's three blades were on the hub at the nose of the plane, but the third was not found. The flight was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 instructional flight. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near Hackberry, LSU WR Malik Nabers arrested in New Orleans; prosecutors refuse to charge with condition, Road closed following fire at Entergy substation, Charges upgraded for suspect arrested in deadly shooting, police say, Health experts, former athletes respond to NCAAs proposal to reduce game time and plays. An uncontrollable dive in an otherwise intact 182 certainly brings the elevator performance into the picture.Thanks for including the link to the FAA's "Dirty Dozen" of human-factor issues related to maintenance practices - good reading for 182 owners. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. All rights reserved. Forget previous post where I stated "slow airspeed". quote: Was a 1979 Cessna 182 N4765N. HACKBERRY, La. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Rocks friends numbered in the thousands, and the family wishes it could acknowledge everyone who impacted Rocks life. The CPSO will be working with family, supporting them. During a news conference livestreamed by the station, Mancuso said that when talking with Palermos wife, I joked that Rock was only an attorney so he could have a hobby of being a policeman and a pilot. The plane then submerged, hetoldThe American-Press. Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. It's really hard to get a C-182 out of CG. The men say Palermo brought them on board the CPSO Aviation Division and add, they will miss him tremendously. Don Clements Death - Obituary | - InsideEko.com News Media | Facebook Rock is survived by his wife of 27 years, Kim; three children, Rachel Palermo, Ryan Palermo (Madison), and Sarah Palermo; mother, Jackie Palermo; mother-in-law and father-in-law, Jenny and Reggie Keogh; brother, Lance Palermo (Tonia); sisters, Ashley Palermo (Nick Goodling) and Alisha Palermo; brother-in-law, Scott Seeliger (Sheila); sister-in-law, Keri Keogh (Dave); nieces and nephews, Mikayla Seeliger, Mikenna Seeliger, Grayson Palermo, Addison Goodling, and Reid Goodling; aunts and uncles, Mary Ann Fiorenza, Tony Palermo, Sr. (Tina), Gil Manuel (Brenda), Johnny Manuel (Mona), Phil Manuel (Pam), and Matt Manuel (Carey); and numerous loving cousins and extended family. Detailed metalurgical examination of the two blades and hub for known indicators of overspeed may be able to differentiate loss of blade in normal flight from loss by overspeed. At least 68 people were killed Sunday when an aircraft went down near the city of Pokhara in central Nepal, a government official said, the country's deadliest plane crash in more than 30 years. The Cessna 182Q Skylane II tends to glide well all things considered, even if the engine wasn't rotating as in, it'd not tailover like that. To day & Tonight : The Temperatures across the Friday PM Forecast: starting weekend cooler then trending warmer. CG forward of the forward limit? The initial impact crater extended about 15 ft deep and contained a majority of the airplane, to include the engine, propeller, fuselage, and empennage. No CFI would loop or allow his student to loop a 182.Not surprised that your "gut feeling" was criticized. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182. The passenger plane with 190 people on board crashed at the Calicut airport in the southern state of Kerala, killing 21 people. To reach the newsroom or report a typo/correction, click HERE. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. (6:43 in the #2 video)If he really did find it, a responsible person who wanted resolution for the pilots and their loved ones would have immediately called the local FSDO and made sure it got turned over by positive handoff. Figure 1 shows the end of the recorded flight track and the accident location. Yes indeed! Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. 0:00. I have been thinking the same, it's the only thing that makes any sense. Flight instructors consider Palermo a friend, mentor and best pilot Looks like they circled a couple times and tried to head back to the airport. These bloated agencies are primarily in the business of keeping their empires intact and in remaining on covid vacation as long as possible. Hard to think of anything that makes sense here. Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near - KALB Sign up for newsletters emailed to your inbox. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). Is it possible that there was carbon monoxide asphyxiation putting both pilots to sleep? A man who was the pilot and attorney for a southwest Louisiana sheriffs office and a second person were killed when their small plane crashed in a neighboring parish, apparently during a flying lesson. Plane was owned by an aviation company in Sulfur. Googled the N number to find the NTSB report and ended up here, Ive never seen this site before, Ive never commented here, So I appologise if my comment is not welcome. In the end, because of the extensive damage it was ruled that it will ultimately remain a mystery on why or how the aircraft lost control. 1 LSU's big win over Butler. Ive known Dan a few years although I havent talked to him in awhile but if he said he found it then Id say he found it. When Don wasnt involved in hunting, fishing, and music, he was at home in his beautiful rose garden and vegetable garden, which he nurtured in order to bring fresh roses and vegetables on a regular basis to his beloved wife, Nancy.