I am not a follower of Christianity nor do I have a problem with that, but these establishments are making the entire religion look crazed and judgmental Just sayin. They just dont want you showing /Friday the 13th/ or anything, due to the content. All men and women are expected to dress modestly, stay well-groomed, and avoid tattoos and body piercings. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. Neither dancing nor tattoos are forbidden, although some forms of dancing would be inappropriate. All of these policies supposedly honor the wishes of Jesus Christ and facilitate participation in the encouraged weekend activities of door-to-door and child evangelism, working in churches, and volunteering at nursing homes. These are CHRISTIAN colleges: did you expect them to accept homosexuality, occultism, and premarital sex? At BJU I just couldnt get any action as the boys are all homosexual or want to be. Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. their own standards, and this writer makes fun of them as hopelessly pathetic. These places really need to get it together, damn. Of course, the handbook does too. Um, we dance at ORU. I was on full scholarship (or would have never atteneded the school),and I was aware of all these policies and followed them. They make you attend a formal dinner every night and make you dress up for dinner too. Theres morality, and then theres this. Stay up the great paintings! BUT, they do not have any rules against you watching them on your own, or even on things like violent video games. Any movies to be shown on campus must receive approval from Asbury College faculty and staff if it involves a rating of PG or PG-13, with all Rs and NC-17s banned except in extreme circumstances (Passion of the Christ, by the way, was considered violent and intense enough to warrant an R by the MPAA). Students are expected to remove hats before entering class or chapel. So if the rules dont work for you, dont go there. 4:3. 1 Corinthians 9:4 says, Do we not have the right to eat and drink? Paul goes on to argue that we should not do so if it would cause a stumbling block to other believers. 8; Gal. Sure, we get frustrated with the rules, but the vast majority of the time, we are too busy to really notice or care. The last one about Liberty isnt even true. Theres a long thread on the forums at home-school.com about Pensacola Christian College by a former student who thinks its a cult, and its not accredited. "Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing," the handbook reads. If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. Rebecca There is little finacial aid available in my opinion and the finacial aid people were less than helpful. Certainly they are more strict and arbitrary in their rules than some of the schools here. What if the rule was actually because the majority of other schools have Title IX sexual assault cases involving the influence of alcohol? because Homosexuality is also wrong,because it upset God to the extent of destroying sodom and gomorah. 5:1921; Eph. If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing. However, the rule only worked one way. Eliane There are some rules that I whish didn't exist, but I understand why they are inplace, so they don't bother me all that much. Ill leave you with a quote to ponder. Feb 25 (Sat) 3:00 PM. For these schools, leeching beyond the academic and school-related extracurricular functions and into the private lives of their students remains a high priority, with handbooks dictating very clearly how all of them must behave regardless of whether or not they live or play on campus. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. Makeup really? Students are not permitted to attend parties where alcohol is being used in a manner that violates University standards. But most, if not all, of these schools require their faculty to live up to the same or stricter standards standards that the faculty and the school believe are right. But do you know which degree is still highly valuable? They have separated beaches for the men and women. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. I had said I love you. and we hung up the phone. If such is the case with these schools, then it cannot be argued that they are in anyway unfair in strictly enforcing the rules. I graduated from ORU, great school! Sexual abuse and incest are very understandably considered a violation due to their illegality and penchant for psychological damage, but legal activities like abortion, premarital and extramarital sex (even within the confines of an open marriage), and homosexuality are held up as just as appalling. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. I know that not all Christian colleges and universities are this strict and can be good. Your email address will not be published. Arrests, convictions, and firearms understandably lead to suspension or termination, but so can purchasing and consuming alcohol (even when of age), attending a bar or a club, involvement with a cult, Satanism, or witchcraft, or engaging in sexual activity. We are also warned to be careful about what we approve and to seek each others mutual edification. Alcohol certainly should not be allowed in dorms as this can be highly damaging to the academic environment and abuse of alcohol that affects studies or endangers other students should result in disciplinary action. As Paul said, Be not drunk with wine, but we filled with the holy spirit. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. Whats your motive? todays society are those who want to ban guns because they kill people, yet want to drink, smoke, and do whatever the hell they want because its there right. I went to a Catholic University in Los Angeles and they do not have rules like that sothere. I think that the questions that we really need to ask are (a) whether students are better off if they attend these schools, and (b) whether we ought to encourage students to attend these schools. There are always going to be kids that break rules.i went to parties were kids were drinking alcohol. Popular majors include Nursing, Mechanical Engineering, and Early Childhood Education. For instance: (1) in your room and dont come back out after 10:30pm; (2) she was 20 and we both had to get permission for her to visit my family 35 miles away, permission from her mother and from my grandmother to go to Grandmas house; (3) we had our social privileges removed for 2 weeks because she rubbed my shoulder while I was laying on the school grounds as she was sitting on the ground next to me. However, I dont think its quite as strict as some of the other colleges on this list, notably 1 3. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. Cedarville University is an independent Baptist school located in Cedarville, Ohio, which teaches its academics "by Christian tradition" meaning, believing that their take on religion is the only right view, that free speech is a no-no, that gays are evil, that evolution is religion and creationism is science, that the bible is a history textbook and that any TV show/movie/video game/book . I respect your opinion and where its coming from. So, to be clear: Students may not eat at a brewery, alehouse, or pub even if they are just going to eat food because they can be dismissed from the University. Are these people protected?, No, they are dead! Yay secularism! The caller said the victim was on the ground bleeding . 251 N. Main St. Cedarville, OH 45314 USA 1-800-CEDARVILLE (233-2784) 1-937-766-7700. for the Word of God and the Testimony of Jesus Christ. Jesus drank wine. They understandably discourage illegal and discourteous behaviors such as excessive drunkenness, but generally harmless actions like possessing legal pornography, moderate drinking, disciplined gambling, dancing, sensuality, premarital sex, and homosexuality all remain condemned and held up as just as harmful to young, educated minds. Both my wife and I are hurt! It is NOT frowned upon if you do not attend other Christian things like church simply suggested. Perhaps they are harmless. This rule is just so that, again, we dont have students doing the dirty on campus. Now on to the next part. The official Honor Code of BYU strictly outlaws camping trips with members of the opposite sex, though instances with separate accommodations for males and females will at least receive a modicum of consideration and reduced discipline if unauthorized. I have yet to understand why people go out of their way to attack our schools when the rules do not affect them in any way whatsoever. Im an army vet who went into humanitarian work when I left the army, honorably. I am currently attending Liberty, and the rules are so laid back at least half the student body goes out late night and weekends gets messed up, and gets it with someone, theres plenty of ways around the rules, school is pretty fake. I will be praying for you and I pray that God works in your life and makes you realize that saying nasty words about something is not going to take away the scars of what someone did to you, or the anger that results from it. It is near 30,000 dollars a year, and Cedarville is not known for its great financial aid! You are loved. Official MBA partner of The Economist. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. program doesnt work for precisely this reason it doesnt teach kids that cocaine is worse than beer. Neither freshmen nor sophomores are permitted to drive cars to work, either. Those who attend any religious school, on their own desire, will attend one in line with their personal religious beliefs. We just simply believe the policy is archaic, not biblically based, and should be changed. All serious and dastardly crimes against the institution. Dallas Christian College directly addresses individuals who feel their extremely staunch policies are either too slack or too restrictive, stating that such measures strike a balance between freedom and Christian piety. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. I have visited Pensacola Christian College many times and am planning to go there this fall. I would like if you can wright me. An aquiantance who attended Bob Jones U told me that she was forced to accept an offer to go on a date with a guy she wasnt interested in because by not doing so she might miss the opportunity to meet the future mate God intended for her. But its greatly changed now. So whats wrong with what they are doing. However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. Furthermore, the views expressed in this article certainly do not represent those of Cedarville University. The first is that prohibition does not equip students for the reality of the world after they leave the campus of Cedarville University. In America, people can express their opinions and say what they want. In their quest to encourage their students to live like Christ or, more accurately, their interpretations of how Christ lived these schools push upon them a series of heavy restrictions involving their behaviors on and off campus. Political or social demonstrations including harmless picketing are completely banned on campus, and the University heavily discourages participating in any held off-campus as well. Unfortunately, many forms of dancing are closely associated with things that undermine godliness. Above all, we pray God would be honored by our deliberations and actions. Any student requiring a personal care attendant because of a physical disability is responsible for making such arrangements. However, this article doesnt actually say that these schools are bad just that they are very strict, which they are. Yet, somehow, Cedarville still fostered open discourse. The students realize that they will be under strict rule. I laud these schools and urge them to bring moral decadence to the bearet minimum. I read the comments first, and assumed that they were being prudes. 31:30). I imagine that most people know about the tendency of people who live in extremely sheltered and restrictive environments to go wild as soon as these restrictions are removed and they realise how much freedom they have, because they never learnt self-control. All colleges, whether religious or secular, conservative or liberal, have written codes of conduct for their students and faculty. Your paragraph on Oral Roberts University is inaccurate. go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. Nor have I lied to him about my history; including the fact that Im a divorcee from an arranged marriage at barely 16 to a man Id met twice, arranged to keep me out of trouble. Asbury College/University. And students coloring their hair is definitely not banned.just unnatural colors are like a student couldnt dye their hair green for instance. While this article certainly peers into their doings from the perspective of an outsider, it admits that the real answers remain entirely subjective and highly nebulous. And in your rush to condemn schools that ban stuff that the book theyre led by tells them is wrong and sinful, you left out the worse stuff. 3:3; Titus 1:7; 1 Pet. Writing articles about what you disagree with regarding the university isnt really helpful to anyone. Men may not grow their sideburns past their earlobes, have hair covering their ears, or keep moustaches beyond the corners of their mouths. When so-called Christians give up murder & pork; & they begin smoting doves, I might start believing them. Dictatorial societies (from countries to colleges) always invoke claims of protecting people from themselves or the protecting the society, but are always first and foremost about preserving the power structure of an elite and repressing any who might challenge the dogma they use to maintain that control. As discussed in the article on Cedarville's alcohol rules, when you make something illegal, it doesn't stop people who want to do it. I was able to find good information from your blog posts.|, http://www.fyple.ca/company/truly-organic-foods-szz2aa/, Thanks for every other informative site. Admissions is fairly competitive as the Cedarville acceptance rate is 59%. IT IS WRONG. No one is forcing anyone to attend those colleges/universities. Please reply, This is not a comment, but a request. Why all the restrictions regarding dancing? They have every right to set the standards they want to set. D.A. Honestly, this is lazy journalism. The reality is this: laws cannot change hearts and minds. 14; 1 Cor. Of those admitted 972 enrolled in the . Anallisa you are extremely vulgar! Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. AND, IF I had not experienced Gods love, Why doesnt she try to show me instead of disipline me when I did nothing wrong!!!!!! First, he writes that something that can be disputed does not make it a theologically disputed doctrine. A church I was told to attend? I attended Asbury for my first 2 years of college and met my wife there. I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. Twitter. I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? Those of you who are saying Oh SOMEBODY has to set standards for the youth. Guess what? The handbook gives the wrong message in this part; dancing is not allowed in groups if it is /suggestive or sultry./ They try to limit large dancing gatherings because they, of course, cannot monitor everyone to make sure they are following that rule. Most of my serious infractions involved demerits for not emptying the trash, not having two feet on the floor at morning light bell, hair touching my eyebrows and humming along to my roommate playing Dust in the Wind on his guitar. It was merely noted that many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. I attended Asbury for four years, the handbook is terribly written, but the rules are not as strict as they are presented here. But people can dance randomly if they want at any time of course as long as youre not grinding your boyfriend or getting down low, youre good. It always has been, and always will be. Welcome to America, what a statement! Employment must not mainly involve the sale of alcohol (so no bars or liquor stores), anything even remotely sexual, gambling, or anything un-Christian. They have to cover tattoos, remove piercings, and maintain hairstyles approved by the dean and all without any unnatural colors, of course. They claimed to preach the message of God, but in his hour of need, while he struggled with substance abuse and depression, they kicked him out of the school. I was there when the movie came out, and I remember some other students calling me unspiritual because I chose not to watch the movie with them. I went to PCC in the early 80s. And Another note. He turned water into wine. By the time we were ready to graduate and go to college, that important decision, like most others, had either already been made for us or pushed so strongly onto us that we felt there were no other options. (https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/on-disputable-matters/) While I do not agree with every aspect of Carsons analysis, he does raise some key truths about disputable matters.. You arent allowed to have your own opinions about anything and creativity and individuality is totally stifled. Articles are submitted and written anonymously in order to protect the identities of students and non-students alike who could face backlash or punishment for expressing their viewpoints that differ in any way from Cedarville University. That's right, an MBA degree. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well. Being used to overbearing, micro-managing or fear-based parenting, it is difficult for many kids to realize at that young age that they are actually capable of making their own decisions! DO you know what these strict colleges are invoking by making these kinds of religious standards? Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Treating free-willed adults as if petulant children incapable of forging their own individual perceptions, decisions, and behaviors.. She told me that I was uncapable of loving because i had not experienced Gods Love. How rude of her to think she knows my life and that I had not experienced Gods love! -Pornography duh. Part-timers or those with special circumstances must do so on days when their classes do not begin until after noon. Just because something is legal, does not make it right, nor does it protect society. Its part of the colleges curriculum, just like a class, due to the college aiming for both academic AND spiritual growth. 20:1; Prov. If you give your kids a firm understanding of probability, they wont even *want* to gamble. I do believe Cedarville gets a lot of things right, especially in the area of academics. Emergency personnel respond to a shooting at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan, U.S., February 13, 2023. -Supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with occult (This is not entirely true. Theese rules are ridiculous, esp. In addition to outright banning the expected illegal and discourteous behaviors, premarital sex and homosexuality are considered as absolute in their alleged offense to God and society as stealing and lying. Listed below are several principles that support and guide our approach to alcohol and are informed by the following Scripture texts: Prov. 5:18; 1 Tim. Located in Cedarville, Ohio, Cedarville University is a mid-size four year private college offering both undergrad and graduate programs. But controlled and responsible use of alcoholwhich Christians too often forget was how Jesus approached alcoholshould not be limited because it has the mere potential to be used irresponsibly. I know several students who attended these schools and went nuts due to teh strictness of the rules.alot of them transferred to Liberty. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Other academic levels are not stringently held to these policies, but they must sign out if they want to return after curfew. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); These days, college is expensive and not the best choice for everyone. Absolutely true! Smoking is legal, but people die from it. In the most recent statistical year 5,223 prospective students applied, and 3,251 were granted admission . Please rethink your mission before writing on something destructive. I went to Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles and the school is laid back we can have alcohol on campus go to dance clubs if we want to,so I say this GO FUCK yourself you religious nuts, I attended Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles They dont have strict rules lie BJU which I think is a little extreme If I want to go to Dance Clubs or a bars I will Let them try to stop me because I will Tell to where to go and how to get there. Geez. Id be more concerned about how easily youre manipulated into defending mass murder and less about cheering on places that prohibit dancing or chewing gum. he would allow an environment that would dishonor the name of Christ. What do the students do when theyre not in classes? Where did you get your information? Look it up. We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. Keep up the good work! Thank you for your feedback!! While some rules are debatable, yet this writer seems to think Even if you are a staunch conservative fundamentalist christian, I would not recommend attending Pensacola Christian College. Cedarville University is a Christian university located in Cedarville, Ohio. A little bit of bleeding and discomfort is not the end of the world at PCC. I know Id want someone to visit me. In addition, neat jeans and flip flops are allowed in class and chapel. and everyone is a sinner, but it is much better to have standards (standing for something morally But God does not write off enjoying anything unless it is harmful to our bodies or hurts others, neither of which are true about alcohol. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. I go to Oral Roberts University. HA!!! This is taken from the oru web site . Guys did not have to accept dates with interested women. let me spell it out for you PROSELYTISM. We all wore makeup, etc. Facebook. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. Who is she to judge!? On a related note, outright banning things often just makes them more appealing. Religion is a choice not a punishment and certainly it is not a requirement if I am not mistaken by my own logic as well as using the bible as a reference would God really want you to be FORCED and REQUIRED to worship him in the ways others want you too?