However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. Turbosquid.com4. I believe this would solve the 'bad content mixed with the quality models' problem. Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. Marius knows this very well as he (whenever he can) communicates whit us. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. But based on the results, we see that it makes sense to show off the CG part on the homepage as well. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. Change Method. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that). It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. I have it is about 5%. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! CGtrader delivers the best basic structure to bring fort this new and healthy next gen market place. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . They have more traffic so i'm told. I have been the victim repeatedly on TS. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. And yes .. "CG Trader has made their world about 3d printing". Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. "Even being a diamond doesnt seem to give me the benefits of sale coz TS takes so much from my sales (everyone's sale) that i would hardly call it profit or any acceptable income. However, the behavior of these clients kept me thinking and I had some dilemmas about what was actually going on here. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. - Limiting, perhaps, the number of objects that can be uploaded in a row, to avoid having the front page confiscated by a single seller when ticking the "newest" filter. Noise Treshold: Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. The conclusion seems, that clients are either more familiar with Tsquid, or that TSquid offers something else that is so valuable that even a much lower price doesn't matter. And saying only nice words won't help them much. google3 It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. Sales dropped to almost nothing. The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. 2. Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. These changes are part of the new TurboSquid Best Price Guarantee (https://resources.squid.io/?p=14893) in which we are assuring TurboSquid customers that they can always find the lowest prices on our site. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. For example, I ran into this this morning. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. https://garagedoorrepairnewportnews.com/garage-door-spring-repair/, Hey, TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. Yes you are right Zet! 4. You need to find what you want based on category and budget and purchase it quickly so you can use the product or send it to who will. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, In order to post an answer, you need to sign in. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. They should make more effort to advertise. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. the success of CGTrader (and other sites as well) contributed to that. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. i think they both have there place . Maybe they have a much deeper interaction with the clients? You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble. when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? I think CGT should begin doing the same and promoting people for being exclusive to CGT after all that will help buyer confidence when they realize how many of their best artists are switching sides! I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me.