Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Had great trees behind it beautiful ferns on the ground so it brought me down on the site and the ferns on the ground matched. They just end up in these places. We'll push great photos to the front page. So one thing I'll add we're talking about natural dispensers but talking with the conservation officer in the 1980s they recall going to a residence telling a person you can live here but your mountain lion can't. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted. Pat do they typically just move around a lot. And I have to use that word allegedly because there is so much dispute about what people see and what they actually see. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Peter Biello: Well Mike thanks very much for sharing your story. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. Post your sightings and NH photos here! www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. But along the lines of the conspiracy theories as you mentioned earlier there there was a bit of a sense on behalf of what I'll call the promo online community who felt that fishing gain maybe not even so much in a spoken policy but maybe sort of an unspoken policy did not want to find themselves in a situation where they had to spend money to create a management plan and so forth. Having not found any evidence is not the same as saying there are no mountain lions, its the same as saying we dont know. Thank you very much for listening. Can you look into this picture. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. For all the men out there that don't realize it. BUT THAT SAID, Id love to be proven wrong. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. It's listed as population of least concern. And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . They don't know the direction they're going. You could trace that was this same cat from point to point to point. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. Pat what do you think the mystique of the mountain lion. Id like to hazard the explanation that we really, really want to see a mountain lion. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. Patrick Tate: So I just got to throw a little interesting side note in this. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. So what those ranges. You treat it as if it's a sincere situation. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. Pat humans people leave deer carcasses up in trees. I just don't understand the mechanism for how that would happen. We want answers. Thanks very much. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. There are corollaries in other states. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! The way that we define species has undergone a revolution with the advent of DNA testing. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. There was a lot of DNA evidence. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. Peter Biello: Well hey Rob. They are the same thing. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Phone number 1 800. As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick.
Saddleback Mountain Lions Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Part II. Since 1917, Lions clubs have offered people the opportunity to give something back to their communities. Its closest living relative is the cheetah. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. Its actually fairly reasonable to believe that mountain lions do, at least, pass through occasionally. Yeah I did. That's the real story is they can't follow up on every one of these sightings. Why are there so many false positives? If youd like to submit a question (or send a mountain line photo) you can record it as a voice memo on your smart phone and send it tooustidein@nhpr.org, OR call our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (1-844-466-8837) and leave a message. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. Second when I when they did forward it from Wyoming to to Michigan you know this was coming right from sample 18 and 19 had no remarkable differences from known mountain lions from Michigan or Wyoming. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes.
Sam Evans-Brown: Well first I want to sort of explain why what the theory is but then also throw a bit of cold water on it because I don't think there's much much logic behind it but essentially is that if fish and game were to acknowledge that there was a population of Mount lions in the state there's a chance that something like a listing under the federal Endangered Species Act might happen and then there'd be you know some they'd have to put a plan in place to protect the species there'd be you know restrictions put on development. Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. 50 feet above the most. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. We speculate they dont want us to screw up tourism we dont know whats going on. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion.
The panther, Fells concolor, is a beast of many names, most frequently referred to in New Hampshire history as catamount, but sometimes known locally as "Indian Devil" or "Carcajou", under which . But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. I would say that there's going to be the truth in here somewhere.
Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. So we tossed these terms around but really the term subspecies has been sort of redefined in our lifetimes. We're not in the woods. Email exchange it an HP fraud org or give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Thank you. And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. The trouble with accepting every reported sighting as a confirmed mountain lion is that there are so many mistaken identifications. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. And you know all that. Seems reasonable! Tim Yeah. Really appreciate it. nh.gov | privacy policy | accessibility policy
It's you know I recognized their report and. You've got you've got biologists right who are trying to make their make their way in the world make a career if you are the biologists who confirmed a sighting of mountain lions in the state that would be very good for you like you would be all over the news. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. But you've done some reporting on this. This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree.