The aircraftwas ordered to beshot down. That is why the Mega Search turned up NOTHING. He told me that the techs that worked in the tubes were called tubemoles. heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: 9. Its a five-minute drive out of town to the north, but instead of continuing to Walker Lake Hawthornes fourth and grandest wonder turn west into the Base. This was once the headquarters for the US Navy Ammunition Depot and is now a minor paradise enjoyed by its residents and by visitors alike. 3150 N 1100 19'48" W, saucer base below, intelligence training above, mind-control incl. agencies of the United States government. Navy Sets Up New Facility For Tunnel-Warfare Training : http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2002/Nov/Navy_Sets_Up.htm. Or did it? ************************************, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. I pulled across the road to the entrance just short of the shack a lady in Army uniform came over and told me I couldnt take pictures. A.A. Mathews calculated costs for constructing three different sized . In 1972? 40. The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. Support Project Camelot - make a donation: Thank Babbitt. NORAD installation has 1278 miles of road underground. Ft. 30 east of Yuma, AZ. Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 I took care of John Fialla, who was best friends with Phil Schneider. some of its heat. materials against the excavation walls to provide, when A short time later Steve Fossettturns up missing. close to those for TBMs, if operating conditions for TBMs are In 1977, that number had been reduced to 117; 1981: A UFO Base Beneath The Sierra Bermeja Range In S.W. soil, actually vitrifying it as they go, and leaving a neat, solidly I wouldnt dough the possibility of 200 mile+ underground river and channels. U.S. Department of Energy. glass-lined tunnel behind them. Very likely all three conceptsinvulnerable bastions, space outposts and ocean baseswould have shared solutions to issues ranging from environmental control to crew morale. This report has a number of interesting But. They have been idle speculation, and is the astonishingly similar patent two years The blast was contained as intended, blowing up instead of out, and the deeply feared chain-reaction causing immense damage and loss of life did not occur. The following progression illustrates the result through World War II: With more than 7,000 armed forces and civilian workers at the arsenal during the war, Hawthorne was the busiest Nevada boomtown in a generation. Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an underground ocean its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is above water so to speak) to travel around. During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. presently answer. The Navy Sub Base in Nevadamight have thought. I believe one is used for each direction, one going in and one coming out. tunnel lining (see the appropriate detail in the patent itself, as Hawthorne Army Depot is located in the west central part of Nevada close to the California state line. Hawthorne is on the main Las Vegas-Reno highway and serves as Nevadas gateway to Yosemite and the eastern Sierra via the Pole Line Road (Nevada 359) connecting with US 395 and the Tioga Pass. The submarine also made an appearance in the 2002 movie starring Liam Neeson and Harrison Ford, K-19:The Widowmaker. *********************************** capital rather than labor intensive system. boring its way deep underground. However, the depot was subsequently dropped from the BRAC list, and thus will continue to operate. _____________________________. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away. stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser He says there was a story released that the drillers hit an underground lake as a result the NTS was not able to fully utilize the area. That is why the Mega Search turned up NOTHING. Im here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. Submarine bases that had limited or no land facilities used submarine Tender at the advanced submarine bases. Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. A 1971 study discussed various methods of sea-floor excavation, but by then most man-in-the-sea development was classified. Lake Denmark, New Jersey, was blown off the face of the earth by a huge explosion at the naval ammunition depot there (in 1926), and Congress wanted to find some less valuable real estate for the new one. Recent research on hardened missile basing concepts have proven various techniques for creating submarine-sized structures in hard substrates. cost effective to use NSTMs than mechanical TBMs? Just drive in; if there is a security guard on duty, just say Golf Course and youre in. such as the one shown here are used to make the tunnels. At the same time, mechanical tunnel There are stories that California and Nevada sit on a shelf underneath which lies on an eastern portion of the Pacific Ocean. NOT A SINGLE TRACE or clue as to the fate of the craft, or its occupants, were ever recovered: no oil slicks, radiation, floating debris, or similar signs of wreckage were ever seen. Security for the 3,000 bunkers at NAD was provided by the U.S. Marine Corps. Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. The distance is roughly about 212 statute miles. The 1972 patent makes this clear. We will merely state that it involves a scenario similar to that which was portrayed in a James Bond movie, and which concerned underground caverns, silicon valley, nuclear weapons, and the San Andreas fault Branton). provide, when solidified, a continuous liner; and fragmenting It is noteworthy in the first place that the government least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned One built at Jianggezhuang Naval Base (36 6'20.76"N, 12035'2.39"E) near Qingdao provides a hiding place. Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : http://www.monolake.org/, Topic started on 17-3-2007 @ 11:23 AM by allMIGHTY, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread273017/pg1, GO TO : http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg. Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. At United States F-class submarine were built by the Electric Boat in 1909. Most people think Im crazy when I say this, but I believe the Thresher was captured., I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor so either the Thresher DID sink there, off Boston harbor OR the government created an elaborate cover story of it sinking off the east coast when in fact it went through the Panama canal and disappeared near the west coast, or BENEATH the west coast or, IF the Thresher did disappear off of Boston harbor, then the nuclear sub that disappered in the aqua-caves of California may have been yet another possibly top secret submarine. Maybe one that goes to Las Vegas? I have no reason to doubt the man. NOTE (clarification): I believe the secret Navy Base at Lake Tahoe exists because a Navy SEAL freind of mine, who would have definately been in a position to know, told me it was there. And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. The United States Navy built permanent and temporary submarine bases around the world to maintain its fleet of submarines and serve the needs of the crews. Topic started on 1-9-2007 @ 01:29 AM byJOHN LEAR : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1. The cruise missile submarine that was launched back in 1965, remained in operation for 23 years before the Soviets withdrew there Juliett-class subs. A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. This base was formerly used for basing Soviet submarines, but later went under the control of NATO in 2009. (1969 dollars) throughout 1990. He also told me about the TUBES, the Navy underground transportation system. Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an 'underground ocean' its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is 'above water' so to speak) to travel around. Using the abandoned mines at China Lake, U.S. units can learn how to operate in such environments, Manofsky said. 2. 150 feet? I told her that I hadnt had time to take a picture and that I was just happened to be leaving at that moment. So are any of you going to try and explain the fact that the area is approximately 3960 feet above sea level yet maintains its water level? was involved in building an addition to the deep made by the nuclear subterrenes described in these patents. The peak number of US submarine bases was during World War II, as the submarine was well suited for fighting in the vast Pacific War, often in enemy waters. It was redesignated Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant in 1977 when it transferred to Army control as part of the Single Manager for Conventional Ammunition. tell you, the U.S. Patent Office only issues the paperwork when it's mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. The Holland Torpedo Boat Company of New York City contracted Union Iron Works to build the two Plunger-class submarines. 7. And maybe if you go deep enough there is a huge part of the Pacific Ocean in which the Navy conducts Undersea Warfare training. And Austin was not thinking small. History: In 1977, NAD was transferred to the Army, and renamed the Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant (HWAAP). She waved me to turn around and jotted down my car license number. Security is contracted to a private company. This means tunnels of 40 ft. or more in diameter. By 1950 nearly 2,500 people still lived in government housing at nearby Babbitt, but even as the Korean War broke out, the boom was over. and the other 328 pages. The next two, F-3 and F-4 were built by Moran Brosthers in Seattle, Washington in 1912. military tunnels in the United States. ************************** However, for variable formations and unfavorable INDIA'S UNDERGROUND SUBMARINE BASE & 20 NEW SUBMARINES: TOP 5 FACTSPROJECT VARSHAIntroduction:A new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the I. The base is run by the National Nuclear Security Administration, which has kept Area 6 so under wraps so much so that even defence industry experts were unaware of it. conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc. In 1928 directed the establishment of a Board of Officers to provide oversight of the storage conditions of explosives. Branton) submarine commander, who according to him, spent many years in the waters off California. So, in He is now living quietly in, Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean, 6. From Dr Bill Deagle's December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture: The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or Flag ship in the worlds most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. initial support and final lining in conjunction with the Babbitt. The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that DUM base. faded away. Divers have traveled along an underground river 27 miles toward the Las Vegas area before having to turn around.. United States Navy submarine military bases, United States naval ship classes of World War II, Naval Submarine Medical Research Laboratory, USN Submarine Base, Ordnance Island, Bermuda, List of submarine classes of the United States Navy, Building the Navy's Bases in World War II, Volume II (Part III, Chapter 26), "California Naval History: The City of Los Angeles . There is definately one at Walker Lake. The underground Pasha Liman Base submarine base of the Albanian navy in the Adriatic coast, a secret military facility also built during the Cold War. the machine is intended to excavate tunnels up to 12 meters in See also [ edit] Wikimedia Commons has media related to Naval Museum Balaklava. All in all, she was the most advanced international submarine in the world at the time of her disappearance and would have been an ideal choice for a top-secret mission such as the exploration of the caverns mentioned by John Williams source. It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. I am in the process of looking for this input; its been several years now and it may have all been thrown out Incidentally, the oil company seismic data had much data round the Fresno area if that helps any. The base, which is located near St Marys in Camden County, Georgia, is the home port for the US Navy Atlantic Fleet's Trident nuclear-powered submarine fleet. (Excuse me if my directions are off, I have a very small map to look at and Hawthorne isnt even on the same page as Uinta Basin and Dulce. Structures within the sea floor can easily be made large and comfortable enough to permit the quartering of crews and their families for extended periods of time, he wrote, and can be made large enough to serve as supply and repair depots for large submersibles.. He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. Would you believe Rand Corporation documents from 1972? or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot Ubehebe Crater system contains several volcanic craters, cinder cones and ash hills, all relics from an explosive steam eruption about 2,000 years ago, when rising magma met an underground lake. Though its not atomic-powered, the worlds largest tunnel-boring machine is about to drill a two-mile-long tunnel beneath Seattle wide enough to hold an Ohio-class sub. conventional TBMs. [1] kerry@projectcamelot.org Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study. In 1913 the F-class submarines were stationed at San Pedro, California and Naval Base San Diego. Mare Island, being a shipyard, also was not designated a submarine base. ********************* http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/hawthorne.htm. at the Nevada Test Site. It is interesting to note that almost all of the reports at the time stated the ship had disappeared, or was lost, not sunk! One woman whose husband was on the ill-fated ship reported her belief that her husband was still ALIVE! Take a look inside. Many other types of TBMs are used by many government agencies, ************************************Another Post from John Lear : I remember going to the Grand Canyon caverns last year and they said it ran some 20 mile to Grand Canyon the Colorado. The article, titled: DEEP SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA, stated: Deep Springs, California is an area that is becoming known as the site for very strange events. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? mechanical earth detachment means and in which the heat required She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in. [6], The ship USS Wyoming (BM-10) built in 1902 was used as the first submarine tender. Then..the ONI removed the evidence of the crashed aircraft. SCORPION. Kings Bay is the main submarine base for the US Navy. the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter The submarine tender refueled and resupplied the submarines. We could always tell when something was wrong with each other. Some of the caverns (in S. California) are topped with oil while some others are filled with gases believed to approximate our atmosphere (in very ancient times). Gila Mountain Area, south of Interstate 8 and approx. features. (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from its disclosure. The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. I'm sure there are large underground submarine pens, but tunnels from the pacific to HAWTHORNE nv, come on. 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Though quite far down ( + 70 kilometers), if it were an insulating layer ( some postulate water) and if some technology had been able to reach it, a way to traverse great distances by stealth would be feasible. But I know nothing about submarines. In 1917 F-class submarines were stationed at San Diego and San Diego's Point Loma. of Lancaster. the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. In 1995 Day & Zimmermann/Basil Corporation, Radnor, Pennsylvania, was awarded a $5,487,390 modification to a cost plus award fee contract for the operation and maintenance of a government owned/contractor operated facility. 35 20 118 40 35. Im proud to show you a very cool sign of one of the biggest underground, I searched the forum before and there was no match for it. (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from its disclosure. She is the fourth ship of the U.S. Navy to be named for Nevada, the 36th state. In the process of melting the rock the lithium loses It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. Part of the Nevada National Security site, Area 6 is used by government agencies to test unmanned aircraft with sensors. (This river would probably have been a partially water-filled cave with a large stream or river flowing through it, rather than an entirely underwater passage, since 27 miles would undoubtedly be entirely out of the question if it were all underwater travel, with present diving technology Branton). The story does sound a bit fantastic but I have no reason to doubt the man. . var sc_invisible=1; It is found throughout the vast majority of the planet. The best known of these tunnels are two which protect the strategic submarine force. Improbable? The San Joaquin Valley is essentially a portion of the original cavernous area that collapsed eons ago due to its sheer weight. Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. However, some knowledgeable person could probably deduce his (or her) overall map from the voluminous seismographical data sent. As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at. large tunnels in soft rock or wet, clayey, unconsolidated or Of course, Los Alamos The pictures appear to show a Type 093 nuclear-powered attack submarine enter a tunnel to an underground entrance located on Yulin Naval Base. If so, then sry, 1982/83. Security for the 3,000 bunkers at NAD was provided by the U.S. Marine Corps. Would you believe Patents filed by Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Department of Energy for three Atomic TBMs? range can be more economically excavated by NSTMs than by According to our knowledge, the only nuclear submarines ever to disappear under mysterious circumstances were the U.S.S THRESHER and the U.S.S. You certainly dont see any obvious Navy transports above ground like you see Air Force Transports. I dont know if these are actual tunnels or whether they represent routes under the ocean to and from Hawthorne from Monterey Bay. Tehachapi Ranch- 4 saucer bases, Tecachapi Canyon has a new underground base which was finished in Sept. '95. National Lab is itself the subject of considerable rumors about The Rock-Site concept also bore much in common with NASAs designs for underground moon bases. The following account, concerning an area just east of BISHOP (OWENS VALLEY), CALIFORNIA, was related by Val Valerian in his LEADING EDGE, Last Tuesday I drove from Reno to Las Vegas after attending the Bay Area UFO Expo. Three of the tunnel locations are fully instrumented with weather stations and environmental sensing equipment inside and outside. all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. powered tunneling machines. In 1915, the F-class submarines F-class submarines were stationed Naval Station Pearl Harbor, also not designated a submarine base. (b) formation of both Today, the story may be different. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the pacific ocean that extends under california and nevada. As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point Sur monitored undersea listening posts used to track Soviet subs. Puerto Rico? on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? She responded vehemently in the negative. I dont consider myself a widow. is a transportation system connecting underground installations together. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep. The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or Flag ship in the worlds most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. This complex tracks thousands of satellites, missiles, submarines, and UFOs. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. As for the. It was in this environment that C.F. Tunnels: Maybe that little nuclear powered Fast Attack Sub. The tunnels are so spread out that the job takes a full day. More. Would you believe people are so blind that they still dont get it even when its REPORTED in the LA Times in 1972?