People in the audience were literally weeping during the post-screening Q&A." MP Andrews was spurred on to the creation of this bill after seeing "Dear Zachary" at a March screening in Ottawa to which all Members of Parliament were invited. And we came back. -, "To give you an idea how powerful it is, I'll just say that there was a lot of audible sobbing during the credits.and the first question in the Q&A started like this: "First of all, holy crap. Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. The Bagbys attended the hearing, of course, and, could not quite believe their ears when they heard the judge's ruling. They are selfless. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. get in there, if that's what she demanded. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. Lori Kaufman rw. Kuenne began making Dear Zachary before Turner revealed her pregnancy. KATE: I thought, `Well, God, this is it.' MORRISON: But then things changed. In the end, she died, but love did not. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. In January, the film was nominated for Best Documentary by both the Chicago Film Critics Association and the Online Film Critics Society, who also nominated writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne for Breakthrough Filmmaker of 2008. I got to see what happens to the bastard who did this. Instead, the film's dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagby's parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their son's body. On December 15, 2010, Governor General David Johnston gave Royal Assent to Bill C-464: An Act To Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody), making it law in Canada. Andrew Bagby, a gregarious family-practice resident at Latrobe, was found shot to death on Nov. 5, 2001, in Keystone State Park. (A huge thanks to the folks at Different by Design in Los Angeles, CA and Anarchy Post in Glendale, CA for making this possible and affordable.). Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm not going to kid you, Doctor. Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. They are prophecies. Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. Mr. BAGBY: What are you going to say that will MORRISON: And find something she did, going so far as telling, them that they had some anger issues which needed to be addressed by a, (Photo of Shirley; photo of Kate and David), Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) There has been, I guess, a lot of, uncomfortable feeling on both our parts. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. Blu-ray | DVD, 10th Anniversary Edition: She always spent time with him, and seemed to me like she was, MORRISON: Still grieving over the loss of their only son, David, and Kate Bagby had forsaken their lives in California and moved to, Newfoundland, not just to make sure justice was being served, but also to be, (Kate; David; Newfoundland; Supreme Court building; photo of Zachary), KATHERINE: There's this wonderful feeling, `I'm going to see part of Andrew. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. They are warm. In mid-December, the Bagbys talked to The Western Star about the rerelease of the documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, by Kurt Kuenne. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. KATE: It was shocking, but not a surprise. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. thing, because up until Andrew was murdered, I was a Pollyanna. They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. When police interviewed the hospital staff Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Well, you don't have to look far.' Bad things tend not to announce themselves, they just kind of land right on your head. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. Based on the title alone, it sounds like one of those saccharine documentaries that only the filmmaker and the subject would ever really care about. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. She would never go away. She has to veer away from the image and instead see him as a living being. iTunes | Amazon Prime Video | Google Play, DEAR ZACHARY ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SCORE ALBUM NOW AVAILABLE. It brings its own special brand of. Remember these two things as I go on. MORRISON: Even more, the Bagbys' gloom was mixed with worry. But that is what the Bagbys. Laws governing the, rights of defendants are fairly strong in this country, but there's something, about Newfoundlanders in particular which may have contributed to the judge's, decision to grant bail. Slamdance Film Festival book signing! His goal at first was simply to collect memories and tributes from people who were close to Bagby. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. For one thing, Shirley, required the Bagbys to bring Zachary to visit her once a week in jail. We were done," Kate Bagby said, finishing her husband's thought, a quirk of their relationship that became apparent during a several-hour recount of how their lives spiraled out of control after that phone call from police. There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. Curated newsletters for curious minds. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, yeah. I extend my deepest thanks and greatest respect to MP Scott Andrews, his associate Ken Carter, Senator Tommy Banks, his executive assistantThrse Gauthier, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Anne Cools, Gord McIntosh and everyone in Parliament who saw across party lines to support this bill's passage into law. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. I praise Kurt Kuenne for having the heart and determination to perfectly put together one of the most powerful documentaries I have ever watched. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? I mean, she. Our SaltWire team is always watching out for the place we call home. And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. flying; Canadian flag flying; Supreme Court of Newfoundland building exterior; photos of Shirley; court document; university building; man talking to, reporters; court documents; Kate and David). Oh, my God. Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. Help contribute to IMDb. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. Andrew came to St. John's. KATE: I sat there and bit my lip and cried. Its good to see him again, hear his voice, he said of the images of Andrew. -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Maintained by: Tracy Lane Mr. and Mrs. David Bagby will be notified of the award, and may request background information on the recipient to facilitate any contact between the recipient and the Bagbys. Right, right. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. David and Kate Bagby moved to St. John's. They forged a relationship with the woman they believed killed their son so they could see Zachary, their only grandchild. After arriving home, she drove 900 miles back to Pennsylvania to kill the man who rejected her. kind of panic sets in, I guess. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. would be the difference if one person weren't alive? unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. She. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. A Kate Bagby is an Advisory Member at Mothers Against Murder based in Los Altos, California. (Newfoundland; Shears driving; photo of Shirley and Zachary; water at night; Mr. SHEARS: She said Zachary was being fussy and that just driving him, around would calm him down. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. Pain, loss never end after tragedy strikes couple - East Bay Times (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah. But on Sunday, when he drove her to the airport, Andrew made it clear to Shirley it was over for good. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Then I can't consent to more time right now. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. Now, she sucked us in here, too. -, "urgent, furiousadmirably well editedthis incredible, well-researched documentary demonstrates the vast gulf one life can leave behind." One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Is this Dr. Turner? Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. HEATHER: I was so excited that he was dating somebody. Kuennes fast-talking exposition, while confusing, seems purposeful, as though the murder were a necessary backstory to be pushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to the heart of the narrative: Andrew Bagbys life and how horrible his death was for those who loved him. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. By refusing to become the thing they hate, they provide a profound lesson on the power of love and the courage to survive the unthinkable." Dear Zachary was named one of the top 5 documentaries of 2008 by the National Board of Review! It will make you question your faith in the world. MORRISON: And tell me about your mum with Zachary. The pair planned to take care of the minutiae of dealing with a lost loved one, fly back to California and kill themselves. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) I never really convinced myself that she, could--that she would hurt Zachary. Dear Zachary will have its World Premiere at the Slamdance Film Festival, January 17-25, 2008 in Park City, Utah! The strange allure of Robert Durst and The Jinx.. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. Typically, we meet the victim not as a person but as a dismantled puzzle to be put back together by the canny viewer, who is likewise appealed to not as a person hearing about a human catastrophe but as an analytical machine capable of sorting and weighing the relevant facts. She pushed it back in and cried some more. Far from experiencing the satisfaction of cracking a mystery, the viewer is likely to come away with a feeling of stymied sickness, of hitting the brick wall of a world gone wronga feeling which must be closer to the lived reality of violent tragedy. It, (Photo of Shirley; Shirley, Zachary and David; photos of Shirley and Zachary). Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. December 10, 2007: This is where the foreshadowed bureaucracy comes back. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. the water. T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. Mr. BAGBY: Yes. MORRISON: When T.J. heard about Andrew's murder Mr. SHEARS: I just figure, `OK, well, he was in America. And Kate kissed him and held him and kissed him some more. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. That child was Zachary, to whom the film is addressed. It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. April 14, 2009: Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I was really upset when you took him today, because I feel like I did the day you saw him at Unified Family Court. I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. Gruesome details, abstruse discoveries, and personal secrets are examined with a seemingly cold and impartial eye in the light of the promise that, if seen rightly, they can yield up a picture of the truth. Add a bio, trivia, and more. anything like that, would we take care of Zachary? MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. thoughts, his wife sees something that rocks her to the core. But two months later, that would change, after Shirley appealed, again to be released on bail. Corporal GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, Dr. Turner, I'm Corporal Gardner with the Pennsylvania State Police. Or it's in the car. -Drafted and finalized press releases, articles, annual reports, websites, earnings releases and investor . What kind of headfuck must that be? Tessa Bagby - Producer, 1st Assistant Director - LinkedIn MORRISON: And now that she was freed, Shirley would once again, Mr. BAGBY: We had to take him down the stairs and give him to, Shirley's friend, who happened to have a car seat. news about his mother and baby brother, and was slammed with instant blowback. American authorities asked Canadian, authorities to send her back to the US, which would require an extradition, hearing. Why would she say that if he wasn't? She was here.' If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. KATE: On Sunday night I got out of bed and prayed because I thought Andrew was at risk. October 22, 2009: MORRISON: In Kurt Kuenne's documentary, Clark Simpson, one of Andrew's close friends at the hospital, remembers that November morning just two weeks later when Shirley surprised Andrew again. David Bagby - Facebook I got to go to the trial. I mean, we would never, disagree with her or fight with her about anything unless there was real. Kate to keep up their end of that bargain. Mr David C Bagby Obituary Visitation Funeral Information They had to be nice to Turner, to keep her mellow, and not fight with her. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) That you aren't trying to take my place. MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. report that concluded the child protection system failed Zachary Turner. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. First their son was murdered in Pennsylvania, then their grandson in to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. I dont know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. ', MORRISON: But they'd have to wait almost a month. MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. And he'd be like(turns. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Mr. BAGBY: By this time we're pretty damn sure she's complete. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. Djing. After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson - SaltWire And in that way this tragedy remains hers and hers alone. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. The tragedy here is that even if you do see it coming, that still doesnt mean you can stop it. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. 2023 Cond Nast. SCREAMS. then one day I realized what it was. An abridged version of "Dear Zachary" will premiere on CBC Newsworld in Canada on Sunday, October 25th at 10 PM ET/PT. Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. We need each other, have each other to get through this, added David. would now have to be something else, a visual letter to Andrew's baby. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. His father says, I kissed him and held him. Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. When Kuenne narrates the particulars of the crime, the evidence, or the legal proceedings, his voiceover shifts to a stylized, rapid-fire clip, making it easy for the audience to miss key details. And he's like, `I'm not looking for anything serious. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. They raised a wonderful, Unidentified Man #26: Thanks for bringing such a wonderful person. This documentary starts out like a love letter. "We had to do something.. Authorities later determined his former lover Dr. Shirley Turner,. And so he set out to collect the memories of Andrew's family and giant circle of friends. There is a dark pull in watching the Bagby case travel to unanticipated depths, but there are no thrills. I only live a block away.' Dear Zachary: A Letter to a son about his father On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). Because this is foreshadowing. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. For this night they were a couple once again, dancing and drinking together. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? MORRISON: But Shirley would make it tough for Andrew to do that. Click HERE for ticket information. On the 5th, however, Turner appeared back in Latrobe. 2015 - 2020. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Or what about the one of me and Andrew?
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